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04/01/2009

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No worries, soon everyone will be released. Some will even be given "some sort of assistance to start their new lives in the United States."

And you called me crazy when I asked you if you wanted them in your neighborhood..... suddenly that isn't so far fetched.


Perhaps you would like to cite a reference, Steve. Particularly for the phrase in quotes. Or have we developed a new protocol in which imaginary stuff is put into quotes?

Or this one (Same AP Article)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/26/official-mexico-not-in-danger-of-collapse-1/

To quote from that article:
"Some of the detainees, deemed non-threatening, may be released into the United States as free men, Blair confirmed.

That would happen when they can't be returned to their home countries, because the governments either won't take them or the U.S. fears they will be abused or tortured. That is the case with 17 Uighers (WEE'-gurz), Chinese Muslim separatists who were cleared for release from the jail long ago. The U.S. can't find a country willing to take them, and it will not turn them over to China."

In other words, people who were in Gitmo for no reason, who are members of a persecuted minority in their homeland -- China, which has a history of shooting dissidents in the back of the head and then billing their families for the bullet -- might be resettled in the United States. This is what terrifies you so? Seriously?

LOL! Let's recap:

Sometime ago, I asked you how many detainees you wanted in your neighborhood, you called me crazy because no one would be released on the street (or something along those lines, I don't have time to go search for the exact exchange). Today I post that not only are some going to be released on the street, but that we are going to give them assistance (read tax dollars). Your response? Accuse me of imagining it. When given the link (twice, because my first link seems to have disappeared) you then claim I am terrified. What next Tom?

I'll ask again, how many of these "non threatening, persecuted minorities" are you willing to take in?

For me that answer is zero. My guess is your (truthful) answer is simply a multiple of that number.

But go ahead Tom, attack me again. That's easier for you than admitting that the Obama administration might be making a mistake.

The assumption behind what you're saying is that everyone in Gitmo is a terrorist and that we should fear their release. I don't believe either of those things, and the Chinese Muslims are a perfect example.

I never said none of them would be released. Of course some will be released; that's the point. There has to be a process of determining who's dangerous and who isn't. In our country, we do that through trials. If they're not terrorists, we shouldn't be holding them. If they are terrorists, we should put them on public trial

As for the attacking, I'm sorry. I think I'm disagreeing, but it could be attacking and I don't mean it to be.

But, for the record, I don't find your stance or the stance of Republicans in general on this subject to be a brave defense of American values. I'm dismayed by how the party that makes a fetish out of the courage shown by the military in defending our freedoms seems to require no bravery of anyone else in that same defense.

Well, your debate with Steve aside, it looks like Miss Universe's blog has been scrubbed.

Such heresy must not be tolerated.

"In other words, people who were in Gitmo for no reason."

No reason?

Oh, so you're saying the US government just swooped into China, grabbed these innocent Uighers who were just minding their own business, being repressed by China and all, and were put into Gitmo for no reason.

Oh, I know, maybe these Chinese nationals were just in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Mistaken identity and all.

You know, several hundred miles outside of China, doing some vacationing in the hinterlands of Afghanistan (I hear it's nice this time of year) and they just 'happen' to get mixed in with these Taliban guys. I mean, who hasn't been just hitchhiking with a bunch of guys with RPG launchers on their shoulders?

Seriously, no reason.

Using teh google, I've found both "captured while fighting against American forces" and "falsely turned in for bounty". Anybody have the facts? I sided with Tom, believing the chance of people who shot at our troops being released on US soil was nil. If I was wrong I will gladly join you in demanding repatriation. So, enemy combatants or Chinese refugees sold out by Afghans. Help me out.

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